Why Mormonism is NOT Christian

Mathew 7: 15-23- Jesus warns of false prophets:

15“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thorn bushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ 

SUMMARY:

Christian Friends, allow me to define why Mormonism is NOT a Christian belief.  First, they reject the Holy Bible as a complete, God inspired book that is sufficient for all humans.  In fact, they believe it is WRONG about…pretty much everything.  Mormons believe that a human, whom they have named  Elohim,  from another planet practiced Mormonism and became God.  The first of many Gods.  They believe that they, themselves will BE God.  Literally.  They don’t believe in the idea of one God.  Elohim is merely the first man to achieve God status.  He had sex with Mary, his celestial God/woman/wife  to have Jesus.  I don’t know which celestial wife he had sex with to have Lucifer, Jesus’ brother.  They believer there is a First Family.   The first humans to become Gods.   And they are polygamous.   This is utter blasphemy to real Christians.

Mormons, even today, are spiritually engaged and ‘married’ to many wives– they do these strange wedding ceremonies where a man ‘weds’ other women besides their physical one.  These ‘spiritual’ wives will be their actual wives once they all achieve God status. Nice for women, huh?  Perhaps that is why Mormon women’s smiles are so brittle and ceaseless toward their husbands, children and peers.  They had better be good little wives.. or else!

Women are still complete second hand status in Mormonism.  Poor girls!  Can you imagine having to smile as your husband spiritually ‘weds’ other women who will be his lovers and wives once they all die and become Gods??? (Please note that they believe that as Gods, they are still fully human and will still have physical sex!) No wonder my Mormon friend was so jealous whenever her husband sat near me.  She joked, but the jealousy was real.  I get it now.

Up until 1978, Mormons believed that Blacks were not capable of achieving this God status and were prohibited from entering their cult.  Thus, Black people all were going to HELL.  Black people have never been so blessed!

They don’t believe that Jesus was divine.  He was just a man- just our older brother.   They emphasize Jesus’ human (and NOT divine) nature emphatically and at each and every opportunity.  They say they ‘believe in him’- but only as the premier example of a human. This is utter blasphemy to real Christians.

They pick and choose which parts of the Bible they like- but they deny most of it.

Instead, they believe that a man/God named Ammaron told another man/God, Mormon, where to find the ancient plates from the ‘Nephites’, a non-existent ancient tribe of Jews whose ancestor left Israel 600 BC and somehow sailed, alone, to Central America.  Mormon then translated the texts and wrote it all down on Golden Tablets and hid them.  Joseph Smith was then visited by another man/God, Moroni (Mormon’s son who also became God) where the tablets were hidden- right here in N.Y.!

Mormons claim to ‘believe in Jesus’ and claim to be Christians.  These claims are disingenuous at best, downright lies as worst.  Their God is NOT the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (but they won’t tell you that up front)- his name is Elohim; nor is Jesus the Jesus as defined by the Holy Bible (and they won’t tell you THAT either).  AND they believe in tricking the ‘uninitiated’ into believing they are Christian in an attempt to lure them into their cult.   Their holy books and instructions specifically ridicule Christians as wrong and misguided.  Foolish, even.  Only they, with their NEW knowledge, are saved.

It is important to note that Joseph Smith was a Free Mason and established the Mormon practice to replicate and perpetuate the Free Mason idol worship of Satan. Masons claim that they worship ‘The Great Architect’. Mormons claim to worship Elohim, their first human/God. Neither worship the Great I AM, Jesus’ father, and certainly not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.  They introduce themselves to the unknowing as ‘Christians’, but they use a special Bible that omits Jesus’ name and all relevant writings concerning him. Since most people don’t read real Bibles, they don’t realize that they are getting duped.

Both Masonry and Mormonism slowly indoctrinate them via a series of bizarre ceremonies into ‘secret knowledge’ that no one else gets.  Only their level and above know these secrets.  Eventually, they make people take oaths of loyalty to their Mason Lodge or Mormon Temple above everything and everyone else.  They are sworn into secrecy and are given the green light to LIE to those beneath them as they are either ‘not worthy’ or ‘not ready’ for the TRUTH.

As people climb in ‘levels’- both in Mormonism and in Masonry- they acquire more and more ‘secret knowledge’ and participate in more and more elaborate ‘rites’. They are given extra status among their peers.  Mormonism adds a threat to their perks:  you will go directly to hell if you leave- even if you go to a Christian church afterwards.

It’s Mormonism or hell.

Eventually, they are forced to renounce Christ as a deity and relegate him to the status of a mere human. Jesus is merely a ‘step’ to get to the REAL salvation- which is that you will BECOME God yourselves and will rule over the lesser … um.. gods.

It becomes a competition in an exclusive club to which many weak minded, insecure or lustful people fall prey.  Even heaven is stratified!  The person who did the most good works wins!  They get the best ‘version’ of heaven.  Those who didn’t do as many good works get a less nice heaven.  And disobedient wives are really screwed- because their husband is their priest who gets to determine which kind of heaven they get!  To me, it is like a hellish suburbia- only this one will last forever!

And worldly wealth is a key to both practices.  More money = more good works = a better heaven and God status.   Only people like Romney will ever become full Gods.  Middle income schmucks shouldn’t dream too big.  Talk to a Mormon long enough and you will find the lust for money.  Because money equals the ability to GIVE more to the temple which equals more status among your peers.   Fail to give money and be threatened with excommunication and.. certain HELL.   But isn’t this pursuit of money hell on earth?  I’ve always thought so.

Ever wonder why Mormon women always smile at their husbands?

Ever wonder why they all jump at the chance to fix your roof?  They are all in it to cinch a better heaven than their neighbors!

I hold both Mormonism and Free Masonry to be two of the most horrific practices on earth.  Why?  Because they prey on the weak by using Jesus as bait and then they turn them around and damn them to certain hell with their teachings.   At the minimum, they force people to live in complete misery on this earth.  They are never good enough.  Never holy enough.  They will never achieve the heaven they wish for.  They will always be… someone else’s  servant- the hungry dog under the table.   And that’s just not right.

DETAILS on Mormonism:

They practiced Judaism until Mormon, their leader,  was visited by Jesus Christ in 326 AD and converted them into some of the earliest Christians.  Mormon’s son was Moroni, the ‘angel’ that gave the books to John Smith in New York.    The other early settlers described in the Book of Mormon include the Lamanites, Jaredites and Mulekites. Both the Smithsonian Institution  and the National Geographic Society have stated that there is zero evidence that these tribes ever existed.  There are no writings, no witnesses, no buildings- nor is there one scrap of archeological evidence to back any of these claims- from ANYONE but the Mormons.  These plates were only seen by John Smith- unless you credit the ‘witness accounts’ of other existing leaders of the Mormons & their relatives– all of whom were excommunicated from Smith’s church later due to ‘disputes’!

John Smith getting his priestly power from John the Baptist.

John Smith was visited by John The Baptist, not Christ, who gave him the power of priesthood.

While Jesus figures prominently in Mormonism, they do not believe that Jesus’ death & resurrection are sufficient for our salvation.  They have re-instituted the ancient priesthood of the Old Testament in order to ‘atone’ for us- in addition of following the ‘example’ of Jesus Christ.  Jesus is nothing more than a prophet- his death & resurrection are nothing.   They deny Jesus the glory & praise he deserves for being fully sufficient for our salvation.  ANYTHING that attempts to steal from Jesus’ power or deity can NOT come from God, his father- hence, they are inspired by Satan and NOT God.   Many, many cults attempt to highjack Christianity in this way.  They use Jesus’ name, but then introduce another ‘prophet’ who ends up greater than or equal to Jesus.  In Mormonism,   this prophet is John.    Cults almost always establish the Old Testament ‘priesthood’ because it gives great power & authority to mere humans again.  These priests can hold power over other humans-  a good reason to be skeptical for sure!  This is the mighty temptation that lies at the heart of cults-  Power.  The establishment of the old priesthood is complete blasphemy against Jesus, and thus against God, his father.   The New Testament specifically eradicated the need for the priesthood because Jesus was defined AS the final priest- the Messiah to come.  Once he came to the world, then the Old Testament said he would be our high Priest forever more.  He was the FULFILLMENT of the Old Testament- he is the Living Word and established a new covenant with humans- hence, the name, “New Testament”.   The fact they believe that John Smith is the High Priest (along with all the Mormon men) tells us that they give him the title of Messiah.  Cults always have a human Messiah.  Jesus is God in flesh.  John Smith is only flesh.  Blasphemy.

Mormons also define Jesus as someone different than we know.  Because of their ‘plates’, they believe he came to Central America after his ressurection in Jeruselem and gave new information, new rules, new instructions, etc.  And he explained himself to be other that the Jesus we know & love.  So don’t be fooled when Mormons say they ‘follow’ Jesus.  They are speaking of a different man!

They also institutionalize a spiritual hierarchy where one man is spiritually superior than another and can be raised higher by attaining special & secret knowledge.  This smacks of ancient pagan rituals.  All these ideas, which are the CORE of Mormonism, completely negate the possibility that Mormonism is Christian.  They might like to claim the mantel- but that doesn’t make it so.

Another aspect of Mormonism that is… highly suspect… is its volatile nature over time.  The actual meaning & message of the ‘religion’ was changed repeatedly throughout the lives of John Smith & Brigham Young.  These were men imbued with so much credibility of their group that a mere ‘vision’ from that man was enough to change everything they believed in.  Examples include their need to establish ‘Zion’ here on earth.  Literally.

John Smith wanted Zion here on earth- in Utah. When that idea failed, he abandoned it and said it was just an ideal.

They attempted to create the final Temple and failed.  They attempted to create an actual utopian society of the righteous (Zion) and failed.  Now, it’s just an ideal and Mormons don’t have to live in a physical ‘Zion’.  They started with no priesthood and one set of ‘plates’ and then lots of plates.  And then more plates and more documents.  John Smith wasn’t allowed to show the gold plates to anyone so sometimes he put it in a pillow case and allowed men to hold it or heft it.  Different men said different things about how heavy it was.  Some supposed ‘witnesses’ said it was gold, gold colored, bronze or copper.  Finally John Smith concluded it was solid gold with silver binders!  John Smith kind of added new pages as he went along.  One man ‘sees’ it and everyone must believe it.   These are only a few, almost laughable, changes made by the early Mormon founders.

There are many fine, upstanding Mormons among us.  They do many good works- they had better!  Because if they fail at doing their good works, they are going to hell.  Jesus isn’t enough.  Most Mormons, like most Christians, are not aware of the ‘finer points’ of their faith.  But the leaders most certainly are.   The sole goal of Mormonism is NOT the Kingdom of God & Jesus- it is money & power for the leaders of Mormonism on this earth.  The following are excerpts from Wikipedia about Mormonism.  Some might say the ‘tone is wrong’, but the basics are there.  If you are a Christian, the ‘tone’ doesn’t matter.  Just the facts speak volumes.

 

Mormon (play /ˈmɔrmən/) is believed by followers of Mormonism to have been the narrator of much of the Book of Mormon, a sacred text of the Latter Day Saint movement, which describes him as a prophet-historian and a member of a tribe of indigenous Americans known as the Nephites. According to the Book of Mormon, the prophet Mormon engraved an abridgement of his people’s history on golden plates, which were later translated by Joseph Smith, Jr.. Based on the chronology of the book, Mormon lived during the 4th century AD.

The Book of Mormon states that Mormon was instructed by the prophet Ammaron where to find the records that had been passed down from their ancestors. It also claims that Mormon later abridged the near-millennium-long history of his ancestors, and added additional revelations into the Book of Mormon. Divisions of the book relating to Mormon’s personal history are the Words of Mormon and the first seven chapters of the larger book. The book says that Mormon eventually passed all of the records on to his son Moroni.

According to Mormon’s record in the Book of Mormon,[1] he was born in about AD 311 to a father whose name was also Mormon. At about the age of ten, he was visited by Ammaron and given instructions on where to find the sacred engravings of the Nephite prophets and on what to engrave upon them.[2] At the age of eleven, Mormon was taken to the land of Zarahemla by his father.[3]

Mormon writes that at age fifteen he was visited by Jesus Christ.[4]

According to Mormons, Jesus was only a man.  He was NOT a deity.  They believe that Elohim (the name of the first man/God) had sex with Mary in the flesh and that Jesus was a result from natural intercourse.

At age sixteen (or “in his sixteenth year”), Mormon became the leader of the Nephite armies,[5] and fought against the Lamanites in many battles thereafter.

According to the Book of Mormon, a religious text of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a Nephite (play /ˈn.ft/[1]) is a member of one of the four main groups of settlers of the ancient Americas. The other early settlers described in the Book of Mormon include the Lamanites, Jaredites and Mulekites. Some LDS scholars believe that the forebears of the Nephites settled somewhere in present-day Central America after departing Jerusalem.[2] However, both the Smithsonian Institution[3] and the National Geographic Society[citation needed] have issued statements that they have seen no evidence to support these claims in the Book of Mormon and furthermore, no secular archeologist or historian has supported their existence.

In the Book of Mormon, the Nephites are described as a group of people that descended from or were associated with Nephi, the son of the prophet Lehi who left Jerusalem at the urging of God c. 600 BC[4] and traveled with his family to the Western Hemisphere, arriving in the present-day Americas c. 589 BC.[5] The Nephites are further described as an initially righteous people, who eventually “had fallen into a state of unbelief and awful wickedness”[6] and were destroyed by their brothers the Lamanites c. AD 385.[7]

Upon returning, Mormon again led them in battle against the Lamanites until the entire destruction of the Nephite nation, which took place as a result of a huge battle fought between the two groups in 385.[10] The prophet Moroni, Mormon’s son to whom he delivered the Golden Plates, records that Mormon was killed by the Lamanites (presumably in AD 385 or shortly thereafter). As the last prophet and keeper of the record, Moroni is said to have become the angel or messenger who revealed the location of the Golden Plates to Joseph Smith in 1823.[11][12]

According to Latter Day Saint belief, the golden plates (also called the gold plates or in some 19th-century literature, the golden Bible)[1] are the source from which Joseph Smith, Jr. said he translated the Book of Mormon, a sacred text of the faith. Some witnesses described the plates as weighing from 30 to 60 pounds (14 to 27 kg),[2] being golden in color, and being composed of thin metallic pages engraved on both sides and bound with three D-shaped rings.

Smith said he found the plates on September 22, 1823 at a hill near his home in Manchester, New York after an angel directed him to a buried stone box. Smith said the angel at first prevented him from taking the plates, but instructed him to return to the same location in a year. In September, 1827, on his fourth annual attempt to retrieve the plates, Smith returned home with a heavy object wrapped in a frock, which he then put in a box. Though he allowed others to heft the box, he said that the angel had forbidden him to show the plates to anyone until they had been translated from their original “reformed Egyptian” language. Smith dictated the text of the [Book of Mormon] over the next several years, claiming that it was a translation of the plates. He did this by using a seer stone which he placed in the bottom of a hat and then placed the hat over his face to view the words written within the stone.[3] Smith published the translation in 1830 as the Book of Mormon.

Smith eventually obtained testimonies from eleven men, known as the Book of Mormon witnesses, who said they had seen the plates.[4] After the translation was complete, Smith said he returned the plates to their angelic guardian. Therefore, if the plates existed, they cannot now be examined.

The Three Witnesses were a group of three early leaders of the Latter Day Saint movement who wrote in a statement of 1830 that an angel had shown them the golden plates from which Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon and that they had heard God’s voice testifying that the book had been translated by the power of God.

The Three Witnesses were Oliver Cowdery, Martin Harris, and David Whitmer, whose joint testimony, in conjunction with a separate statement by Eight Witnesses, has been printed with nearly every edition of the Book of Mormon since its first publication in 1830. All three witnesses eventually broke with Smith and were excommunicated from the church.[1] In 1838, Joseph Smith called Cowdery, Harris, and Whitmer “too mean to mention; and we had liked to have forgotten them.”[2] In later years, all three testified to the divine origin of the Book of Mormon and, at least near the end of their lives, all were members of one denomination or another of the Latter Day Saint movement.[3]

The Eight Witnesses were the second of the two groups of “special witnesses” to the Book of Mormon’s golden plates. They were all members of the Whitmer or Smith families: Christian Whitmer, Jacob Whitmer, Peter Whitmer, Jr., John Whitmer, Hiram Page, Joseph Smith, Sr., Hyrum Smith, and Samuel Harrison Smith. Joseph Smith Sr. was Joseph’s father, and Hyrum and Samuel H. Smith were his brothers. Christian, Jacob, Peter Jr. and John were David Whitmer’s brothers, and Hiram Page was his brother-in-law.[4]

Unlike the Three Witnesses, the Eight testified that they both saw and handled the plates. Another difference is that the Eight testified they were shown the plates by Joseph Smith, Jr. rather than by an angel as had the Three Witnesses. Christian Whitmer died in 1835 and his brother Peter Whitmer, Jr. died the following year. In 1838, the surviving Whitmers became estranged from Joseph Smith Jr. during a leadership struggle in Far West, Missouri, and all were excommunicated with other dissenters and fled Caldwell County after receiving an ultimatum from the Danites.[5] None of the Whitmers ever rejoined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Although none of the Eight Witnesses is known to have denied his testimony to the authenticity of Book of Mormon or the golden plates, in 1838 a former Mormon leader, Stephen Burnett, claimed Martin Harris had told him that “the eight witnesses never saw [the plates] & hesitated to sign that instrument for that reason, but were persuaded to do it.”[

The golden plates are significant within the Latter Day Saint movement because they are the reputed source for the Book of Mormon, which Joseph Smith, Jr. called the “most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion.”[201] However, the golden plates are just one of many known and reputed metal plates with significance in the Latter Day Saint movement. The Book of Mormon itself refers to a long tradition of writing historical records on plates, of which the golden plates are a culmination. See List of plates (Latter Day Saint movement). In addition, Joseph Smith once believed in the authenticity of a set of engraved metal plates called the Kinderhook Plates,[202] although these plates turned out to be a hoax by non-Mormons who sought to entice Smith to translate them in order to discredit his reputation.[203]

Two other sets of alleged plates, the Voree Plates and the Book of the Law of the Lord, were purportedly translated by James Strang, one of three major contenders to succeed Joseph Smith and the eventual leader of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Strangite).[204]

Some Latter Day Saints, especially those within the Community of Christ, have doubted the historicity of the golden plates and downplayed their significance.[205] For most Latter Day Saints, however, the physical existence and authenticity of the golden plates are essential elements of their faith. For them, the message of the Book of Mormon is inseparable from the story of its origins.[206]

In the Latter Day Saint movement, the Restoration refers to the return of the Priesthood and the Church of Christ to the earth that started the Church. While in some ways the term may refer to the early history of the religion, in other contexts the term will be used in a way to include down to and past the present. Especially in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints The Restoration is often used as a term to encompass the religious messages of the Church down to the present.[1]

The RESTORATION is associated with a number of events occurred that were understood to be necessary to re-establish the early Christian church found in the New Testament, and to prepare the earth for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.[2] In particular, Latter Day Saints believe that angels appeared to Joseph Smith, Jr. and others and bestowed various Priesthood authority to them.

Latter-day Saints claim that various Old Testament and New Testament scriptures, including teachings of Christ himself, prophesy of this “falling away” or “apostasy.”[8][9][10] Thus, Latter-day Saints refer to the “restitution of all things” mentioned in Acts 3:20-21 and claim that a restoration of all the original and primary doctrines and rites of Christianity was necessary.[11] They believe that important historical events such as the Protestant Reformation and the establishment of the United States Constitution, which explicitly allows for freedom of religion in its First Amendment, were necessary antecedents to the Restoration.

By 1832, however, Smith indicated for the first time, in an unpublished history, that the priesthood had been received by the “ministering of Angels”[14] In 1834, Oliver Cowdery provided the first public announcement that the priesthood had been conferred by John the Baptist on May 15, 1829. Cowdery’s account was essentially confirmed by Smith.

According to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church), the largest Mormon group, all Priesthood ‘keys’ necessary to administer Jesus Christ’s church were given to Joseph Smith, Jr. who then organized that church to continue in perpetuity. Hence, members refer to their church as “The Church of Jesus Christ.” The term “latter day saints” refers to the fact that members of Early Christianity were originally called “saints”, and the church reestablished by Smith is believed to be Christ’s church in the last days prior to the second coming of Jesus.[12]  (Now, this is complete sacrilege to Christianity as we all understand it.  Christians believe that Jesus is the Messiah spoken of as “a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek” (Ps. 110:4), and so Jesus plays the role of High Priest ONCE AND FOR ALL- not the Mormon men- not John Smith- nobody but our Messiah, Jesus Christ. )

Members of the LDS Church believe that their church is the “only true and living church upon the face of the earth” because of the divine authority restored through Smith. They claim that the LDS Church is the restoration of Jesus’ original church, has the authentic Priesthood authority, and all doctrines and ordinances of the Gospel, fulfilling many of the prophecies of Daniel, Isaiah and Malachi in the Old Testament and also the prophesies of Peter and Jesus in the New Testament.

Latter-day Saints maintain that other religions have a portion of the truth, mingled with inaccuracies.  (In other words, they feel sorry for us. )

For another perspective on Mormonism, go to:  http://carm.org/is-mormonism-christian

 

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35 comments

  1. Wow. I stumbled upon this hateful little gem of a blog and I’m so glad I did. Its articles like this that make all Christians look bad. No wonder more and more people don’t want to self-identify as a Christian. Seeking as you’re quite old and narrow-minded it may be too late for you, but please educate yourself a LOT more about religion in general before you post idiotic mess like the writings above. Although I am not Mormon, I would never be as disgustingly ignorant as you if dared speak out negatively against them. If you are a prime example of a Christian, God help the rest of us.

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    • Hi Amber and thank you for such a well thought out and informative comment! Amber, I also believe you are not a Christian, are you? Pls. let me know so that I can properly respond to your…um..comment. If you ARE a Christian, then I would point you again to the Holy Bible for my defense. And if you are NOT a Christian, then I would just respond by saying, “Atheists or people who are simply ‘lukewarm’ about religion in general HATE Christians to begin with. Your comment is just using Mormonism to shoot a barb you desired to shoot beforehand. Thus, your commentary holds no weight.

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  2. A great well-researched article, SLR. For me, Mormonism is a sort of a hare-brained cult based on Christianity. As long as they don’t try to impose their delusions on others like the followers of the cult of islam, I can tolerate them.
    On a lighter note, watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gm6JYFdnD8

    No protests from the Mormons when South Park creators ridiculed their religion. Not like you-know-who. Shows that the followers are smart even if their founder was kind of not all there.

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    • You know, Dodo, I could almost smile at your joke. But Mormonism has been weighing heavily on me. It is more dangerous to the soul to have a bright shiny beautiful Satan than one with a pitchfork and fire. It’s easier to deal with a murderous people who cut people’s heads off than those who do good works. Of the two religions, I find Mormonism to be more dangerous to the human soul.

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  3. I am a member of the Mormon Church but I am a non-believer in the claims of Joseph Smith. I do not believe that Jesus died on the Cross for my sins. So I am not a Christian.

    However, Let’s examine the facts. The Mormons believe that Jesus died on the cross to save them from the penalties for their sins. They believe that had he not died they would have gone to hell. I think there is some common ground.

    Here’s the diffirence. A Protestant Christian teaches that to accept this sacrifice one has to have faith in him. Mormons believe they accept it through their obedience.

    I think that a Christian is anyone who believes that Jesus died on the Cross for their sins. Mormons qualify in this respect. However, if you want to define a Christian as one who needs to accept that he can only be saved because of his faith alone, I agree that Mormons would not qualify as Christians according to that definition.

    But I think that you are attaching strings to the sufficiency of Christ. You seem to suggest that to be saved a Christian has to believe that he only has to believe to be saved. Didn’t Paul say that if you confess the Lord Jesus with your mouth and believe that God raised him from the dead that you would be saved? Mormons do that. Shouldn’t Christ’s grace be sufficient for them? Why do they have to be right about every point of doctrine?

    You argue that Mormons believe in a diffirent Jesus. Mormons believe in the man who lived two thousand years ago in Israel. They believe diffirent things about him but he is still the same man.

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    • Several points: First, I find it surprising that you would bring Paul into this as he explicitly denied the gnostics of his time who believed almost the same thing as Mormons. They denied the sufficiency of Christ’s death & ressurection. Paul condemned this roundly. Also, Paul clearly and repeatedly said that the LAW is dead. This means all the rituals & sacrifices & rules of behavior, etc. He concluded that the LAW was only given in order to prove how hopeless humans are at attaining salvation by obedience & good works. He proclaimed the end of the priesthood when he said these things. And yet, Mormons claim to believe in the Bible- yet insist on the priesthood and the rituals and the power of good works. Good works to Mormons, in fact, actually make them into GODs. Equal to God and equal to Christ! All Christ did was to show them the way. This is NOT Christian and no, I don’t believe God or Jesus would bless this thinking at all. I believe they would condemn it as much as God condemned the human arrogance in the Tower of Babel project. Becoming God through good works is pure sacrilege and crazy thinking. It insults Jesus and God at the same time. In fact, it is exactly the same temptation Satan used on Eve: “Eat of this fruit and become AS GOD is.” Mormons don’t do good works to glorify God & Jesus or as a testimony to the change brought about by the Holy Spirit. They do it for selfish reasons: They want the most joy (or, at least MORE joy) than their neighbors & friends! AND they want to become GOD. You can argue all you want about this- but there is no way that a human can serve two masters. He can not do good works to serve Jesus AND himself. The lure of becoming GOD and attaining more joy than your neighbor automatically makes this into a competitive, selfish rat race for heaven. Joseph Smith made up all the nonsense about the tablets and the tribes. He clearly knew the Bible and twisted his story around just enough to make it believable to the gullible and persecuted. Mormonism was founded more from a sense of tribalism than anything else. Mutual support against the outsiders. Joseph Smith totally took advantage of people in difficult and dangerous situations to create a cult of adoration for himself. He was cleverly and Satanically intelligent enough to include the ‘good stuff’ for the followers as well as for himself. Heck, he got a completely dictatorship, many wives, tons of money and best of all, lots of sex. When I see a human being making up a crazy tale that ends up profiting himself, I see not a prophet, but a profiteer. J Hale! Right now, in this moment- I challenge you to reject Mormonism. They are wrong about everything. They have made you and every other Mormon a slave- just as the gnostics attempted to enslave the freed Christians two thousand years ago. Christianity if FREEDOM, not shackles. We don’t need to be good to be saved. In fact, we can NEVER be good. And you know it. THAT is the great joy that Jesus brought to all of us. The freedom to be completely imperfect. He said that he came not to condemn, but to save. His death and ressurection are enough! THAT is what it means to accept Jesus and worship him. He was not merely a teacher that you will someday be equal to. He is our GOD and we are his servants. And that is a great relief! We are sinners and he knows it and guess what? he loves me and you ANYWAYS. His gift is soooo simple- the Mormons via a criminal named Joseph Smith have made it so complicated that only a few high priests will ever truly make it to heaven and BE GOD. It is a lie, a falsehood and he and every other Mormon leader will be punished MOST SEVERELY by Jesus and God. Especially God- for he is jealous of his name. It will infuriate him that any human dare think that they will BE GOD. No. There is only one God. There will ever only BE one God. Of that I can assure you. J Hale! Jesus’ message is so simple. So plain. So easy. Just accept that he has the power to save you from your sins and bring you fully into heaven to be next to him. That’s it. There is no more. It’s so simple as to be laughable. And I do laugh. With joy. Yes, his gift really is that great. And THAT is why Christians worship him. Now, THAT is grace. THAT is love. Not the watered down sludge of Mormonism. To them, he never gave such a wondrous gift. He only gave a tiny gift. To them, all the work to get into heaven rests on your poor shoulders! What a paltry, half baked gift! Jesus gave you ALL so that you could live. Just believe in him. Believe his words. NOT the words of a crackpot named Joseph Smith who actually fought so badly with the only other ‘Witnesses’ that saw the doggone gold tablets that he personally excommunicated them! HE excommunicated them! Was he GOD already? By what power could he tell these other Witnesses that they were damned? But he did do it. It just all sounds so utterly, so sadly human. Not Godly at all. And if these silly and completely fabricated plates & ridiculous tribes never existed, then neither do all the rites, the priesthood and all the shackles of slavery. You are FREE, my friend. Jesus freed you & me on that day back 2000 years ago. Leave and never turn back. Come to church with real Christians and receive the Holy Spirit and receive Jesus as your lord. I promise you, the good works will come- but they will FLOW out of you because you so want to please Jesus. Not because you are afraid of hell, or of less joy or of shame. You won’t do it because you want or need to be GOD. You will just do it because you really, really want to. And THAT, my friend, is true joy.

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      • My friend, like I mentioned in my first post, I am a non-believer in the claims of Joseph Smith. In other words, I agree with you; Joseph Smith was not a prophet. I am a member of the Mormon Church but I do not believe in it and I am on my way out.

        I myself have rejected Mormonism because it has a history of mistreating blacks, dissenters, women, and gays.

        However, I believe that Mormons are Christians. I think I explained why in the first post.

        I myself am not a Christian. I appreciate your love and concern.

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      • See there, J Hale? You leaving Christ altogether is exactly what Satan wants. That is the exact danger of cults like Mormonism. Because so many people who leave the Mormons feel damned to hell anyway, they just embrace it. Don’t do that, dear. Please. Take a little time. Take a break. But I am here to tell you that Jesus did live. He really was God’s son. We are not equal to him or God in any way. They are our kings and I, for one, am so relieved to have their guidance. We can never be good and Jesus doesn’t care. He LOVES you, J. Imperfections and all. ALL you need do is confess his name as your Savior & Lord. That is his promise and it is a true one. His gift is so simple and so sweet and so loving that almost no one can believe it. I had Mormons say, “Why would anyone be saved just because they called on Jesus?’ because to them, this is a ridiculous notion. How could anyone love them that much? They are unworthy of that gift. No one would just forgive their sins like that. No way. But I say, YES WAY! J. The Holy Bible has been validated historically for every scientific viewpoint. every person lived and every witness account is as solid as any documented witness account can be. No scholar argues with the events or people recorded in the Bible. Their own question is the existence of GOD and whether or not Jesus was the son of God. YOUR only question is, “Is faith in Jesus really enough?” The anwer is, “YES!” Jesus transformed my life, J. Can I ask you to read my testimony? All I’m asking is that you do not, in your pain concerning Mormonism, throw Jesus’ gift out too. That is what satan wants. To destroy you. J, I have just said the most earnest prayer for you. You know, I never intended to write these articles. I was just enjoying my day and having a good ol’ time. But God led me to it. And KAPOW! You should see the turmoil it has caused me on Facebook! But now I know why God pushed me in this direction. It was for YOU. And for every hurting Mormon. To stir you, to interest you- and ultimately, to reach out to you. God is real, my friend. He is so loving. There is only one God. Doesn’t that relieve you? Why would you want to be God? It’s too burdensome. It’s too hard. Lay down your burden, Friend. Jesus is here. He is our Lord. He has already given you salvation and you do not have to do a single good thing to earn it. Isn’t that wonderful? Just take it, J. Just take it. Please continue to talk to me, friend. If you want, you can contact me personally and we can continue this conversation privately. You matter. I don’t know you, but I know you matter. With much love, Susan.

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    • Yes, the Mormons do believe that Jesus dies on the cross for their sins, and they do believe that if He did not, then they would die in their sins and go to hell. And yes, Protestants believe they must accept this sacrifice to have salvation (at least in a nut shell), which is opposed to the Mormon belief in acceptance through obedience. Kind of. Protestants also believe in acceptance through obedience … obedience in what God states is required for salvation. Mormons carry that a step farther and require obedience in works – including extra-Biblical works assigned by the LDS church.

      The problem is, however, that God said you cannot be saved by your works. He later said, through Paul that a Christian’s salvation is often illustrated by his or her works, but he reiterated that one cannot be saved by or through their works. Especially extra-Biblical works such as those assigned by the LDS church.

      So, no, Susan is not attaching strings to the sufficiency of Christ, she is merely pointing out the qualifications (or “strings” if you will) as pointed out by God Himself. If anything, you seem to be using the “sufficiency of Christ” statement in an “all roads lead to heaven” manner, when clearly they do not. And although Christ’s grace is sufficient for Mormons (and everyone else), there are some ground rules as set forth by God.

      And no, they do not have to “right” about every point of doctrine, but they do have to be “right” on every point of essential doctrine as pointed out by God Himself in Scripture.

      Oh, by the way, Mormons do believe in a different Jesus. The Jesus of Scripture is God Himself – the Creator of all thing. The Mormon Jesus is the birth brother of Lucifer – the Devil – Satan – a created being; which is so contrary to God’s Word as to be blasphemous.

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      • Thom Paine: If I understand correctly you are saying that saving faith requires a type of obedience with which the Mormons do not comply because they believe in blasehmous doctrines. That makes sense.

        Susan: I want to start off by saying that I do not “feel damned to hell already.” The belief in Hell is a belief that God is unjust. I have made mistakes, my friend but all of them are finite and I do not believe that finite crimes deserved infinite punishment. Allow me to give you a metaphor. If I hit someone, what does justice demand be done unto me? Does it demand that I be tortured and executed? Does that sound just to you? At most, justice demands that someone hit me back. It is the same with God. God is not unjust. He will not punish finite crimes with infinite torture.

        I believe in God, my friend, and I believe that he does love me and you and everyone with their imperfections. I have to disagree with you. I do not think he wants the vindication of seeing the Mormon leaders suffering in Hell.

        The suffering of Jesus implies that we all deserve to die and I disagree with this. Our offenses against God and our fellow man are not capital offenses. In addition, God can do anything. He can forgive sins without needing to torture his son.

        The Bible is a book which insults the character of God. The God of the Bible commanded Moses, Joshua, and Samuel to commit genocide. He told the Israelites to stone their disobedient children and to kill gays. Slavery was o.k. in the Old Testament.

        Historical and Scientific evidences do not support the Bible. The Old Testament contains a chronology that suggests that the World is 6000 years old. Take a look at Biology, Archeology, History, and Geology. Persons from these fields should acknowledge that the World is much older than that. Theories of evolution contradict the story of Adam and Eve in the garden. In Genesis we meet Abraham who was living about four hundred years after the flood of Noah. Biblical Scholars seem to agree that Abraham visited an Egypt ruled by the Hyskos. The Hyskos conquered what was known as the Old Kingdom which had a chronology that went back thousands of years. Four Hundred years is not enough time for thousands of years of History to happen. In the New Testament we read about Herod ordering the slaughter of the infants. There is no historical evidence that this ever happened. We do not possess the original manuscripts of the four gospels. We have manuscripts from about 200 A.D. It is difficult to know what happened during those two hundred years. As a case study look at Mormonism. Mormonism’s teachings have changed substantially and many Mormons don’t even know it.

        I have no ambition of becoming a god, Susan. I believe in a loving God who manifests himself in his creation and in our sense of right and wrong.

        I do appreciate your love and concern. I have always believed that Chirstians do what they do out of love for their fellow man.
        God bless,
        J.

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      • Well, J. You are wrong about what the Bible says. I’m not sure if you actually read it. Your statements are wrong and you don’t understand what you are saying. But my prayer is still with you. God bless you, J. I can only hope that our talk will plant a seed that will grow and thrive within you.

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  4. I used to enjoy your posts but this is pathetic. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, who gives you the right to say we are not Christians? Are you a prophet? If you do not believe that is one thing but to try to tear down a church that does nothing but good in the world, that is sad. I shall not bother to follow you any further seeing your lack of Christianity towards others.

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    • j7n2c9. Not only is Mormonism NOT Christian but it is from Satan himself. Good works does not a saved person make. Only Jesus can accomplish that. No good works needed. Not one. I can only pray that you throw off the nonsense taught to you by Joseph Smith and come to the True Christain Body so that we can give you the TRUTH about Jesus. HE SET YOU FREE FOREVER AND EVER. Nothing, and I mean nothing more is needed. Cause he loves you just as you are: a sinner. Me too. And I thank him for this gift, which is such a more marvelous gift than Mormons would attribute to Jesus.

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    • Also, I’ve noticed that many Mormons say things like, ‘lack of Christianity toward others’ or ‘that wasn’t very Christian of you’. The underlying notion is that Christians are somehow ‘good’. THAT, my friend, is the problem. Humans can NEVER be good, can never be perfect, can never be GOD. Christians are SINNERS like everyone else. We are no better and no holier than the worst of sinners. ‘Christian’ does NOT equal ‘Good’, my friend. The ONLY thing that defines a Christian is their belief that Jesus Christ is God (there’s only ONE GOD)’s son with such power, such grace, such LOVE that he pardoned ALL OUR SINS and gave us the full gift of LIFE if we would but take it. Not one good work is necessary for salvation. THAT is a Christian. And Mormonism with all its extra rules, extra rituals, extra priests & stringient requirements on humans so that they can attain heaven is from SATAN. He loves to diminish Christ and his most amazing work on this earth. As Mormonism diminishes God and Jesus, it is of SATAN. Now, perhaps that insults you or frightens you. But it. is. the. TRUTH. You have been seriously misled, my Friend.

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      • “Not one good work is necessary for salvation. THAT is a Christian.”

        It saddens me that so many people in this country and beyond base their lives on beliefs such as this. I can’t imagine teaching my daughter that “good works” are unnecessary as long as she believes that Jesus essentially “covered” that part for her. I believe in God, and I believe he is forgiving and accepting without exception. I also believe that he expects all human beings to perform “good works” in whatever form they may come. The “no good works” attitude also seems pathetically convenient. Do as you please and you will still be welcomed into heaven, as long as you believe someone did you a big ole favor a few thousand years ago. “Christianity” seems like the perfect life path for those unwilling to be accountable for their actions.

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      • Rebels Mommy, I am saddened that you teach your girl that she will ONLY have salvation if she is a good girl. Jesus’ gift is much more generous than what you believe. It IS 100% all we need. Good works are a SIGN of the change wrought in you by the Holy Spirit. In essence, good works are a natural outflowing of the love you feel for Jesus. I never teach my kids that they should NEVER do good works. Quite the opposite. But I would never tell them that doing good works will earn them more joy or that people who do more good works will get a better heaven than them. That is just plain stupid. It is also slavery. Mormons claim to believe the Bible on one side of their mouths while also saying that the Bible has changed over the centuries and so, they have a right to pick & choose which parts they like. No, Mormons are not Christian. Apostle Paul (whom I’m sure you reject) also stated this clearly when gnostic Jews attempted to bring back the LAW after Christ. He roundly criticized them and rightly said, “If the LAW is still alive and the requirements are still valid, then Jesus died for NOTHING! ” Why you would chose this type of slavery is beyond me. You refuse Christ’s true gift of TOTAL salvation by belittling his power and his love. Shame on you. But, it is your choice. I can’t see how it can possibly make you happy. You must feel forever inadequate. Forever sinful. Forever ‘bad’. Forever frustrated that your hopeless human condition can not get rid of your evil thoughts, your evil words and your evil actions. Because every human, no matter how hard they try, will always do, say, think evil things. And if you believe that God is God, then you believe he can see to the innermost parts of your heart, mind & soul. You can NEVER measure up. And that must suck for you. Me? I am loved & treasured by Jesus and God. They LOVE me for my complete trust and faith in Jesus’ redemption. I am so joyful inside that I want to burst. Tears stream down my face at church as I sing my thanks to Jesus. Jesus saved me even though I am sinful and always will be! What a gift. Your version of ‘heaven’ is actually pure hell on earth. Someday you will realize that. And guess what? TRUE Christianity can call on Jesus on their death bed! You can just call out and Jesus will forgive everything you did. And just like the thief on the cross next to Jesus, who never did a good thing in his life, Jesus will tell you, “I will see you in heaven soon…” Don’t forget that!

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    • To answer your question, if Susan will pardon my intrusion into this conversation, God – through His Holy Word – gives us not only the right, but the obligation, the responsibility to say that the Mormon church is not a Christian church. Ephesians 5:11 “Have nothing to do with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.”

      I will concede that the Mormon church does a lot of good, an awful lot of good “in the world”, at least physically, however, the Mormon church, through it’s non-Biblical blasphemous teachings is condemning millions of people to hell. If you take the Bible, the Word of God, and compare it to the teachings found in the Book of Mormon, the Pearl of Great Price and the D&C (really compare them and not consider them as equals), then you will clearly see that Mormonism is not of God, and it’s teachings are contrary to God’s Word.

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  5. Very good article Susan! I don’t know why so many people seem to think that Mormonism is a Christian sect, when it is so obvious that it is not. In fact, it is just as obvious that it is an anti-Christian religious cult. I don’t know how anyone can become so confused unless they are blinded by their need to be so accepting of anyone that they will accept anything. We can, and should accept anyone at least to point that we can share the true gospel of Jesus with them, but we cannot accept anything that contrary to Scripture. I should, however, insert a caveat here. If you are not well versed in Scripture and what other religions believe as well (and how they differ from Biblical Christianity), I would recommend avoiding any apologetics type witnessing.

    I wish you had gone into a little more detail in your article regarding the whole comic book aspect of Mormon theology (i.e.: the Mormon god was once human and has multiple wives, Jesus and Lucifer are actually brothers, god lives on a planet near the star Kolob, the class system in heaven, etc.), as well as the thousands of doctrinal changes in the Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price and Doctrine and Convenants (the three Mormon holy books which are regarded as more authoritative than the Bible) that have occurred over the years. My favorite of these is that fallen angels were cursed by becoming black people, and that if a black person accepts Mormonism they will magically turn into a white person. If that isn’t pure out and out racism I don’t know what is! How can anyone accept such a morally reprehensible theology is beyond me. But I do know that millions unfortunately do.

    And I should also point out that I do not think that Mormon’s are “bad people” simply because they are Mormons. In fact, I think the opposite is true. I personally know many Mormons who are wonderful people, and many who act more Christ like than many professing Christians I know.

    Keep up the good work Susan, and keep on running that race!

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    • Thomas, you are clearly more educated in Mormonism than me. May I ask you to write an article describing the aspects you here mention? I would love to repost it on my website and on my FB site. I found yesterday that Mormons actually believe they will become GOD (literally God- as in, equal to him and to Christ) if they do enough good works and if they continually repent. Why should they worship Jesus then? What good did Jesus do them if they are as tied to the LAW as humans were BEFORE JESUS CAME? It is so Satanically driven. It diminishes BOTH God and Jesus into mere ‘parents’ of humans who will eventually become adult GODs! Blasphemy! The things you mention are even worse- Lucifer & Jesus are brothers? God was married? Sick. sick. sick.

      I don’t know if you followed the FB uproar that this caused. Mormons were finally forced to admit the ‘becoming God’ thing and they were forced to admit that Jesus’ gift & work are NOT sufficient for their salvation. I was so happy. I didn’t know why I even wrote the article until the debate with Mormons began on FB. Weak Christians called me hateful and said I was picking on Mormons. Some were just irritated that I brought this up due to their support for Romney. Everyone thought the definition of Christianity is ‘acceptance’ of other faiths! I was being unaccepting and everyone just wanted to get along. But unlike any other time in my life, I knew the fight must be won. I suddenly realized the reason God led me to write these articles: to fortify and strengthen Christians before the election. So many Christians are trying to water down their faith to accept Mormonism just so they can justify voting for Romney. My message ended up being this: Vote for Romney, but KNOW that Mormonism is NOT Christian. Many, many people doubted me and my line of questioning until they finally heard the confessions of the Mormons themselves. It was good. Very good.
      You should check the conversation out. It was utterly fascinating to see how they ALL attempted to be slippery with the way they described Jesus. It took some pointed questions to draw out their confessions. They are a secretive bunch, those Mormons.

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      • Hi Susan,
        Actually I was not aware of the confrontation between you and the Mormon’s on your FB page. Lately, due to several things going on and taking up much of my time, I have not been spending as much time on FB as I sometimes do. But yes, they are very secretive and circuitous in their explanation of their beliefs. If they were up front and open about everything they believe they would not have half of the followers they do have. You have to ask very pointed, very specific questions otherwise they will obfuscate their heads off in an attempt to sound as Christian as they can.

        As for writing an article, I am not sure where I would start! If I wasn’t very careful it could quickly become a novel length work! But here is a basic primer in the Mormon belief system, and feel free to use it as you wish. In a nutshell, the Mormons believe that God (whose name – not title – is Elohim) was once a mortal man and a Mormon. He accepted Mormon teaching and was eventually elevated to god of his own planet which is located near the star Kolob. While there he and his multiple wives have had billions of spirit babies. Elohim created the earth and man, and then began to send his spirit babies to live in the bodies of the people he created here on earth. One day, Elohim called several of his sons together and asked them to devise a plan of salvation for the people of earth. Two of his sons – the brothers Jesus and Lucifer – presented their plans. Lucifer’s plan called for a forced obedience to Elohim. Jesus’s plan gave the people of earth the choice to either accept or reject Elohim’s rule. When Elohim approved Jesus’s plan, Lucifer became very angry and he rebelled against Elohim. Some of his spirit brothers and sisters joined him. Some joined Jesus, and some simply sat on the sidelines and refused to take sides. Those who joined Lucifer became demons, those who joined Jesus became white people, and those who sat on the sidelines refusing to take sides were cursed and became black and dark skinned people. [Remember, this is what the Mormon church teaches! It is not Biblical!].

        This is why up until the 1980’s, the Book of Mormon taught that if blacks and other dark skinned people accepted Mormonism, they would magically turn white. (2 Nephi 30:6 “…scales of darkness shall begin to fall…they shall be a white and delightsome people.” In 1981 this doctrinal passage was changed to read “they shall be a PURE and delightsome people.”).

        Mormons also do believe that they can also become gods and create their own planet and their own inhabitants and their own plan of salvation. In fact, they believe that there are millions (or more) gods who have created their own planets, inhabitants and plans of salvation. But it is not enough to simply be a Mormon to become a god. In order to become a god, a Mormon must ascend to the third and highest level of the Mormon heaven. Mormons believe that there are three levels of heaven: The terrestrial (or lowest) level, the telestial (or middle) level, and the celestial (or highest) level; and only those Mormons who ascend to the celestial level will become gods (and etc). In order to ascend to the celestial level, a Mormon must: 1) be baptized in the Mormon church, 2) go on a mandatory mission, 3) tithe regularly, 4) perform the baptism of the dead (repeatedly for all dead ancestors uncovered through genealogical research – yes that’s why they do it), 5) perform the endowment ritual, 6) be married in the Salt Lake Temple (sort of a Mecca for Mormons), 7) be “sealed” to their spouses (yes, I said spouses – Mormon’s still practice polygamy, albeit a “spiritual” polygamy, in that all the wives they are “sealed” to will be their wives once they ascend to the celestial level of heaven), 8) perform all other mandates and requirements as decreed by the Mormon prophet, and 9) one must be a male in order to ascend to the celestial level of heaven. It’s an all male club. The only females who make it are those who have been sealed to their spiritual husband and they then become one of that “god’s” wives. Unsealed females are not allowed in the celestial level of heaven.

        I should also point out that the areas in the Salt Lake Temple where these “sacred” rituals take place is off limits to all non-Mormons. So don’t expect to go there and see these rituals take place. And I won’t go into the ritual washing of the prospective brides and groom, as it is somewhat disturbing to me and somewhat pornographic – at least to me. I am sure that at least some Mormons are comfortable with it.

        What else to tell you about? Have you heard about the “Magic Mormon Underwear”? It is a thin two piece garment that covers from the neckline to below the “private” areas of the body, and it is worn either in place of or under standard under garments. Generally white in color, the “Magic Mormon Underwear” (also referred to as “Temple Garments”) has a square and compass design sewn into the garment near the right and left nipple, and a rule (straight line) sewn in the area near the navel. These symbols are the sacred symbols of the Mormon church (and come from Joseph Smith’s freemason background) and their presence on the “Magic Underwear” / Temple Garments is to remind the wearer (Mormons only) of the covenants they made during the various temple rituals, and the wearing of the actual garment (with attached sacred symbols) will, according to Mormonism, actually provide the wearer with divinely imbued protection against any temptation, evil influences, evil attacks, and will enable the wearer to “stand firmly for the right.” Hence the term “Magic Mormon Underwear.” (Interestingly, the Bible, God’s Holy Word, states that it is He who gives His followers the ability to withstand temptation. Nowhere does God mention magic underwear being needed. Just saying.)

        Off the top of my head I cannot think of anything else to report on the Mormon church’s beliefs that are so absolutely contrary to the true teachings of God as contained in the Bible. And to any others who read this, if those friendly young clean cup men in white shirts, black ties and black trousers come riding up on their bicycles, remember, not all of them are familiar with all the teachings of the Mormon church. They are at your house to simply witness to you according to the Mormon church’s method and practice of witnessing. It’s part of their mandatory mission. Sometimes you will find one who does know, but mostly they are just trying to make it to the celestial level of heaven by performing the works required of them by the LDS church. Offer them cool drink of water, thank them for their interest, and send them on their way. Do not engage in a “battle of the witnesses” with them unless you are called by God to do so, and are prepared for a long, long, long (minimum 12+ week schedule of meetings!) period of proving and convincing and witnessing. If anyone has any questions, please feel free to ask, and I will try to answer them. Rather than take over Susan’s blog, if you would like, you can contact me through my website, independentrealist.weebly.com

        My best to all.

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      • Ha! Wow! Excellent! Thank you, my friend. Your description was as scholarly as it was interesting. I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

        One of the Mormon girls arguing with me on FB quoted a ‘scripture’ from Nephi in which Jesus supposedly said that “Satan is the father of all lies and CONTENTION”. She brought this up by attempting to condemn me as ‘contentious’. Which made me laugh! Of COURSE a cult doesn’t was contention! They want blind obedience. And the whole all male club is likely designed to ensure a woman’s obedience, isn’t it? I also love how you can’t get into God status unless you regularly give YOUR MONEY to the church! lol! It is all so laughable and so utterly HUMAN. There is nothing divine about it. Nothing surprising. See, Jesus truly shocked people. He was NOT obvious. He, a KING, who washed feet? absurd! He a GOD, who allowed men to spit on him and nail him to a cross? STUPID! A Savior who couldn’t save himself- RIDICULOUS! Someone so powerful that he could simply ‘unmake’ his torturers, but allows them to cast their whip? INSANE! Apostles who were poor and were brutally murdered? WEAK! But it was this very irony that makes Jesus’ life so utterly fascinating. While Mormon ‘apostles’ are rich & powerful (such a human dream), Jesus’ apostles lived wretchedly poor lives. While Mormons have a big white castle, Jesus had no where to lay his head. While Mormons marry many women, Jesus married no one. While Mormons are better than one another, Jesus invited even the lowliest of us to be his brothers & sisters- all equally joyful in heaven together with him. Jesus was noble. Truly noble. What is noble about becoming GOD, having lots of sex and money? That sounds exactly like being a rock star, doesn’t it? Not a very noble ambition. His entire being was given over to service. Not one thing for himself. And YET, his story makes people stop and listen. It is the very disparity, the very surprise of Jesus that makes them pause. And then his message comes and fills them up. They are flooded with the hope & joy he always wished for them. The joy he denied for himself. He is living LOVE. And that, my friend, is what Mormons don’t teach their children. Because they wish to make slaves of them.

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  6. Very good article Susan! I don’t know why so many people seem to think that Mormonism is a Christian sect, when it is so obvious that it is not. In fact, it is just as obvious that it is an anti-Christian religious cult. I don’t know how anyone can become so confused unless they are blinded by their need to be so accepting of anyone that they will accept anything. We can, and should accept anyone at least to point that we can share the true gospel of Jesus with them, but we cannot accept anything that contrary to Scripture. I should, however, insert a caveat here. If you are not well versed in Scripture and what other religions believe as well (and how they differ from Biblical Christianity), I would recommend avoiding any apologetics type witnessing.

    I wish you had gone into a little more detail in your article regarding the whole comic book aspect of Mormon theology (i.e.: the Mormon god was once human and has multiple wives, Jesus and Lucifer are actually brothers, god lives on a planet near the star Kolob, the class system in heaven, etc.), as well as the thousands of doctrinal changes in the Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price and Doctrine and Convenants (the three Mormon holy books which are regarded as more authoritative than the Bible) that have occurred over the years. My favorite of these is that fallen angels were cursed by becoming black people, and that if a black person accepts Mormonism they will magically turn into a white person. If that isn’t pure out and out racism I don’t know what is! How can anyone accept such a morally reprehensible theology is beyond me. But I do know that millions unfortunately do.

    And I should also point out that I do not think that Mormon’s are “bad people” simply because they are Mormons. In fact, I think the opposite is true. I personally know many Mormons who are wonderful people, and many who act more Christ like than many professing Christians I know.

    Keep up the good work Susan, and keep on running that race!

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  7. Thank you for posting this article. We should be able to express our views freely, as long as it is respectful. You have done that in your article. I have learned a little about Mormonism from writing a research paper for my Religion in America class. It was interesting and you covered some of the points I had addressed in my paper (the prophets and the different books). I do have some concerns about Mormonism, just like people have concerns about my faith: Catholicism. We all have questions and that is one way we can learn about the different faiths if we have an open and honest debate. Again, thanks for posting! I always enjoy reading your blog. -Jen

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    • Thanks, Jen. But I want you to know that there is no comparison between the complete sacrilege of Mormonism (they believe that they will BE GOD if they do enough works, they believe Jesus & Satan were brothers, that God was married, etc, etc, etc). They believe that Jesus’ gift of salvation was not sufficient. Good works are NECESSARY to obtain heaven. They have sick rituals that are so secret that they can’t even talk to us about them. Secret knowledge that only the high priests can have.

      All 100% sacrilegious- it not only un Christian, but completely Satanic.

      Catholicism, on the other hand, would never seek to diminish Jesus’ death & resurrection as complete and sufficient for the salvation of our souls. It would NEVER set up a human as equal to God and Jesus. There are some practices that make other denominations uneasy, but to me, Catholicism is most definitely Christian.

      Stay strong and stay focused on our Lord, Jesus Christ. Good luck on your studies and please, don’t equate an ‘open mind’ to mean ‘acceptance’ of any kind of diminishment of Jesus. Remember, knowledge can be good or bad. Don’t be seduced by intellectualism away from your God, ok? Susan

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    • thanks, Dana. It is amazing me so much that Christians don’t really know what it means to be a Christian! hence, their vulnerability to satanic thinking. You should see the confusion this has caused on FB! Now I see why God put his hand on me to write these articles. They are critical as we are about to elect a Mormon as our next president…

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  8. http://www.aremormonschristian.org/ Just one resource there are others. But still the best way for an individual to know if LDS members are Christians is to get to know some who are active in their faith or attend a few LDS Sacrament Meetings (worship services). This is how I have learned about my fellow Christians of other faiths, by attending their meetings and bible study. These experiences have enriched my own faith and helped me to understand theirs. Apologist and critics alike can write and support many views but the fruits of any religion is in the effect it has on the life of those who practice it. So again get to know a few of the 14.1 million members world wide who live near you!

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    • Celeste, I have to disagree with you that the way to determine if someone is Christian is to get to know them personally. There are many, many ‘nice’ atheists. They are fun to hang around with and are good conversationalists at parties. Being nice and being good and being moral are NOT the definitions of Christianity. To believe that Jesus is the Son of the one and only God and that he lived and died and was ressurected from the cross in order to bring complete salvation to humans is. This is the ONLY definition of Christianity. No rituals needed. No membership to any church. No extra books or details needed. This is all that a person needs to be a Christian. Celeste, we have been friends on FB and I truly hate to lose that, but I must say what is true. The worst part of Mormonism is its good works. I say that because it fools people into believing they are Christians. This is the sheep’s clothing that Jesus referred to. Underneath is a wolf that will steal your soul.

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    • Am I correct in understanding your statement “This is how I learned about my fellow Christians of other faiths…” to mean that one need not be a Christian to be a Christian? One can actually be a Christian while at the same time not believing in the God of the Bible? It seems rather contradictory to me.

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  9. The task of our generation is to build Unity among ALL believers in the Lord Jesus Christ, such an article is disrespectful and divisive. I am sincere, I am well studied in scripture, I am active in prayer, I try to be kind and to learn all I can about all who profess Christ as the Son of God, as I do…and I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints…yup a Mormon!This is really off base and with all due respect very poorly researched. I advise you to dig a bit deeper and beware of the amount of false info out there. Get to know a few members personally and you will learn soon that this religion is Christ centered to a degree that puts many protestant congregations to shame. Also, JOSEPH Smith is the first Prophet of this faith not John Smith.

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    • sorry about the ‘john’ vs. ‘joseph’. I’m sure you are all those things and do all those things, Celeste, but if you deny that Jesus’ death & resurrection are the ONLY things needed for our salvation, then you are diminishing him. And that is not of God. It is of Satan. For he will use ANY thing, including good works, to diminish Jesus in man’s eyes. Mormons believe that if they leave the Mormon CHURCH, then they will go to hell. That is 100% anti-Christian. Because it sets the CHURCH up as more powerful than Christ’s sacrifice & ressurection. IT saves people, not Christ. You need to think about this, Celeste. I hope you reconsider your Mormonism. You are saved with only Christ. A church has got nothing to do with it.

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    • Lastly, I disagree. The task of our generation is NOT to build unity among all believers in Christ. It is for each of us to accept Jesus as our Lord & savior. Period. Once you do that, you are changed forever. You have automatic unity with other Christians. Only sin can get in the way.

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